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So I set out to create a manuscript description, happy in the knowledge that no easy-to-use description of Cotton Nero A.i has already been made.
What I want in a MS description:
* items clearly laid out, with modern English descriptions where appropriate
* first lines of homilies in Old English
* texts identified by their common title as well as their MS title
* clear quire divisions within the list
* references to editions
* the ability to scan the description either quire-by-quire OR by content type

Which means a table. Vertical axis numbering items and listing foliation. Horizontal axis listing content type (Insitiutes, laws, homilies, other). So one can scan down the 'homily' column if one so desires, or one can isolate the fifth quire, or whatever. FABULOUS.

BLOODY DIFFICULT TO CREATE IN MS WORD.
An exel table would be fine. Lovely. But difficult to print out and bind into a thesis.
So we have lots of individual one-page tables, which have to be prevented from binding themselves together and aligning cell widths (the Homilies column, for example, having been squashed up when there are no homilies on the page, so as to make space for Institutes).

And then I discover that you can't footnote a table.

This, people, explains why no one has made a user-friendly Manuscript Description of Cotton Nero A.i.
But I will not be defeated! When I am done, the Reader will be able to flick through my table with ease!
Sigh. The Reader will be me, and whatever unfortunate souls mark the thing. Oh, the futility.

Date: 2008-04-05 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackbuttoneyes.livejournal.com
I've decided to translate a Latin edition of the Prester John letter, because I've not really found an authoritative Modern English translation of it. Those types of projects are always a nightmare to get through, but it's nice to have it round afterward, even if others won't ever really see it. You could try and get it published though! winkwinkwink

Date: 2008-04-05 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
The description part doesn't strike me as publishable in its own right, and it's far too big to be part of a bigger article. There are two easily available, fairly comprehensive descriptions out there already... The only reason I can think of for publishing a complete new description is as part of a book-length project. Or a website, maybe. I'm getting the increasing impression that so much more could be done with websites and online editions.

An online edtion of the Institutes of Polity, that'd be nice. One where you could enter in which chapters and/or manuscripts you wanted, and get them up online or in printable format. The only edition out there tries to do up to five // texts at once, and just succeeds in confusing people. If you could enter in what you want and get it back from the website, that would be fabulous!
If only I were a computery sort of nerd.

Date: 2008-04-05 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackbuttoneyes.livejournal.com
There must be a willing computer nerd out there somewhere! =)

Date: 2008-04-05 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
And when I find one... i shall marry them, and force them to do my bidding forever!

Seriously, computer nerds strike me as the best husband material. Certainly, half of the other young(ish) female Anglo-Saxonists around here seem to think so. Awesome has a software engineer, who conveniently bails her out of computer problems and streamlines her powerpoint presentations. Classmate X, of last year, has a helpdesky-type-man, who acts similarly.

So I need to find me a computer nerd. And prevent the Wife from marrying me off to a carpenter.

Date: 2008-04-06 02:42 am (UTC)
ext_3638: I'm in ur history, emphasising ur wimminz (Default)
From: [identity profile] kayloulee.livejournal.com
You would end up like Francesca's mum, a professor who married a builder, in Saving Francesca - depressed and working at UTS. Not good.

Granted she does get un-depressed, mostly, by the end of the book, but still.

(feel free to lambast me for being online when I should be working on my document analysis thing)

Date: 2008-04-06 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
Francesca's mum is WHY kate wants me to marry a builder.

Date: 2008-04-06 03:13 am (UTC)
ext_3638: I'm in ur history, emphasising ur wimminz (Default)
From: [identity profile] kayloulee.livejournal.com
THAT IS ILLOGICAL. And anyway, where would you find a builder to marry? It's not like they go to, eg, Viking conferences.

Francesca's dad was pretty cool though, apart from the whole "depression? My wife? Nuh-uh!" thing.

Date: 2008-04-06 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
do yer fecking homework, girlie.

or bring your laptop down and join us at my Thesis Table.

Date: 2008-04-06 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goblinpaladin.livejournal.com
If that was a subtle attempt to defend my honour, I thank you.

If not, why wasn't it?

Date: 2008-04-06 08:34 am (UTC)
ext_3638: I'm in ur history, emphasising ur wimminz (Default)
From: [identity profile] kayloulee.livejournal.com
Cos you have none, duh.

Actually I just couldn't think of any other examples.

If you want to think of it as an honour-defending thing, feel free, though.

Date: 2008-04-07 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goblinpaladin.livejournal.com
I would resent that, but it is so true!

Date: 2008-04-07 01:42 pm (UTC)
ext_3638: I'm in ur history, emphasising ur wimminz (Default)
From: [identity profile] kayloulee.livejournal.com
Hey, you're a Slytherin, basically.

Date: 2008-04-06 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackbuttoneyes.livejournal.com
Heehee! Plus they make good money ;) Not that material needs and computer assistance are all that matter...but damn it sweetens the pot!

Don't worry, I got me an unemployed writer, so I'm not all about the moneys. Usually =D

Date: 2008-04-06 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
ahem, yes. certain lucky people I know have husbands/ permanent partners supporting them and their fledgling academic careers... not something i can see happening in my future :(

Date: 2008-04-06 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackbuttoneyes.livejournal.com
Yeah....that sounds nice. Also not happening anytime soon for me. Ah well! My unemployed writer man is also the one who introduced me to Firefly, so it's pros and cons! =)

Date: 2008-04-06 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goblinpaladin.livejournal.com
Wait, did I miss something? You're looking for a computer nerd again? What did I do?

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